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April 26, 2008


Ben Wraith

I'd love to see that more thought out and formalized. Personally, I happen to travel very little and don't have a good plan for getting rich yet. So I'm biased towards evaluations of risk that put emphasis on the danger of travel and little importance on money.


If you're going to travel, planes are safer than cars. I don't know the stats for trains or boats. Hitch-hiking is a definite no-no.

People can get by without traveling. Murray Rothbard apparently stayed in Brooklyn nearly his whole life because of his fear.

Hopefully Anonymous

TGGP, the "planes are safer than cars" stat doesn't necessarily apply to a few conditionals, the biggest of which is: is flying on a plane raise risk of information theoretic death more than riding in a car (or car variant).

Also, it's not clear to me, for example, that the safest way to fly on a plane is safer than the safest way to ride in a car.

Although I grant you that the evidence seems clear (and widely known) that being a commercial plane passenger is safer than being an average driver -a narrower claim.

Hopefully Anonymous

previous post should read " ... which is: does flying ..." instead of " ... which is: is flying ..."


flying on a plane raise risk of information theoretic death more than riding in a car (or car variant)
What do you mean? That much of the risk of cars is in non-lethal injuries? I believe the risk of death is still higher in cars. I agree that you can make decisions that will result in much greater safety when driving. On a plane it's just which planes you pick, as I assume you don't have a pilot's license.

Hopefully Anonymous

TGGP, what I mean is that likelihood die in an accident is different than likelihood to be vaporized in an accident. By that criteria it's possible that car travel is safer, but it's an empirical question.


I think your brain decays pretty quickly after death (at least according to Herbert West: Reanimator), so the distinction would only matter if much better revival technology is available at the time of your trip.

Hopefully Anonymous

1. Our revival technology doesn't have to be sufficiently good now if our preservation technology is sufficient to prevent information-theoretic death (whether it is or not is unclear to me -and to at least some of the experts).

Nick Tarleton

Back Of Airplane Safest Place In Accidents

Risk statistics: Amtrak and air travel are about the same. Auto travel is 10-20 times as dangerous per passenger-mile as either. I doubt an air accident is 10-20 times as likely to informationally kill you as a car accident, but it's probably more so, and rail probably isn't, so Amtrak seems safest when feasible.

Cryonics seems to me very likely to prevent information-theoretic death if used reasonably rapidly, but what do I know.

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