When we sketch uncle sam, or John Bull, are we attempting to describe real, organized phenomena, perhaps even on their own conscious and self-reflecting, the way a circle in flatland may attempt to describe a sphere that occasionally passes through (particularly if that circle itself is part of that sphere, or at least of another sphere)? In the search for non-human intelligence, I still think we should scrutinize more thoroughly phenomena composed of multiple humans, such as cliques, corporations, sovereign nations, markets, and cultures. After all, we ourselves are composed of systems of multiple cells, where consciousness emerges several years after the system exists, and then persists in it in punctuated format until it ends, even if the system of cells persist. At least that's how it appears to happen. I would have little surprise if it turns out that self-reflective, conscious entities can emerge from systems of humans in interaction, and I mean a consciousness that exists distinct from any of the constituent human consciousnesses, just as our own subjective consciousnesses seem to exist distinct from the "dumb" regulatory processes that individual neurons are in engaged in.